A short session this week as Quadrapop had a RL appointment to get to.
The following transcript has been edited to remove system and script whispers only...
[2008/06/07 17:09] You: welcome to this week's Quadrapop Tree Arts Salon
[2008/06/07 17:09] Noctis Oh smiles
[2008/06/07 17:10] You: Performing Arts - that covers everything from DJs, Musicians, theatre, and ballet in my books
[2008/06/07 17:10] Linc Nefarious is Online
[2008/06/07 17:10] You: today we have Phorkyad Acropolis talking about his experiences putting on theatre in SL
[2008/06/07 17:11] RITCHEY Jacobus: awsome
[2008/06/07 17:11] Octaine Quinnell: Great
[2008/06/07 17:11] Noctis Oh bows
[2008/06/07 17:11] Phorkyad Acropolis: we just closed the Baccahe--minutes ago
[2008/06/07 17:11] You: and I know some of the others here are DJs or work in clubs that host live musicians/DJs
[2008/06/07 17:11] Manx Wharton: whoops~
[2008/06/07 17:12] Alizarin Goldflake: TY!
[2008/06/07 17:12] You: welcome Alazarin
[2008/06/07 17:12] Manx Wharton: should I be seeing some text?
[2008/06/07 17:12] Beta Bates waves hello
[2008/06/07 17:12] Manx Wharton: oh ok hey alizarin
[2008/06/07 17:12] Trip Joffe is Online
[2008/06/07 17:13] Alizarin Goldflake: hi Manx
[2008/06/07 17:13] Alizarin Goldflake: hi Beta
[2008/06/07 17:13] Noctis Oh waves
[2008/06/07 17:13] Manx Wharton: hey beta! long time!
[2008/06/07 17:13] Beta Bates: Hi, Alizarin
[2008/06/07 17:13] Beta Bates: Hi, Manx.
[2008/06/07 17:13] You: hmm the table is not rezzing a new seat :-(
[2008/06/07 17:13] Beta Bates: It has been a while, yah
[2008/06/07 17:13] Alizarin Goldflake: gee i wish my hair would grow back
[2008/06/07 17:13] Alizarin Goldflake: got the sl scuzzies
[2008/06/07 17:13] Manx Wharton: yah hugely.
[2008/06/07 17:14] Alizarin Goldflake: hehe
[2008/06/07 17:14] You: so who would like to start us off with a story about their experiences with performing in SL?
[2008/06/07 17:14] You: you git hair for me hun - though the clothing textures are missing ;-)
[2008/06/07 17:15] Noctis Oh: rebake?
[2008/06/07 17:15] You: brb kids hassling me for breakfast
[2008/06/07 17:15] Noctis Oh: ah
[2008/06/07 17:15] Alizarin Goldflake: i havent seen so many ruthed avis since i logged on 2 years ago
[2008/06/07 17:15] Trip Joffe is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:15] Alizarin Goldflake: this was a singularly bad sl day
[2008/06/07 17:15] Noctis Oh: the rolling restarts for updates do not seem to have improved matters
[2008/06/07 17:15] Manx Wharton: today has been a crashgasm anyway.
[2008/06/07 17:16] Alizarin Goldflake: got any idea why they do this on saturdays?
[2008/06/07 17:16] Octaine Quinnell: Yes Friday night was hellish
[2008/06/07 17:16] Manx Wharton: I was going from one sandbox to the next, just ahead of each restart.
[2008/06/07 17:17] Alizarin Goldflake: well why not do it wednesday
[2008/06/07 17:17] Manx Wharton: I felt like a vagrant.
[2008/06/07 17:17] Noctis Oh: hello linc
[2008/06/07 17:17] Alizarin Goldflake: because --- big business is now entered in
[2008/06/07 17:17] Octaine Quinnell: Hi Linc
[2008/06/07 17:17] Linc Nefarious: hi everyone!
[2008/06/07 17:17] You: back
[2008/06/07 17:17] You: hi linc
[2008/06/07 17:17] Alizarin Goldflake: hi Linc
[2008/06/07 17:17] Jubilant Quackenbush: hi Linc
[2008/06/07 17:18] Manx Wharton: LL needs to wake up and realize that they don't want to be the big biz soln; leave that to disney
[2008/06/07 17:18] Manx Wharton: they have better lawyers for it.
[2008/06/07 17:18] You: yes it is the little individuals who actually make their money for them ...
[2008/06/07 17:18] Manx Wharton: RIGHT
[2008/06/07 17:18] Alizarin Goldflake: well they will lose their charm altogether if they lose their artists
[2008/06/07 17:18] Manx Wharton: classic customer segmentation.
[2008/06/07 17:19] BETLOG Hax is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:19] You: manx any reason we have a zeplin parked in the gallery?
[2008/06/07 17:19] You: lol
[2008/06/07 17:19] Manx Wharton: hehe
[2008/06/07 17:19] Manx Wharton: because the Bugati's in the shop ;)
[2008/06/07 17:19] You: lol
[2008/06/07 17:19] Noctis Oh: :P
[2008/06/07 17:20] Alizarin Goldflake: ok so Quad
[2008/06/07 17:20] Alizarin Goldflake: the topic is?
[2008/06/07 17:20] You: Performing arts - listening to it - playing it - doing it
[2008/06/07 17:20] Alizarin Goldflake: what do you count as performance?
[2008/06/07 17:21] BETLOG Hax is Online
[2008/06/07 17:21] Noctis Oh: no exclusionary criteria, right?
[2008/06/07 17:21] You: Phorkyad is on the phone - he was aboutto tell us about his experiences putting on a theatre production
[2008/06/07 17:21] Alizarin Goldflake: does visual artist fit into the topic?
[2008/06/07 17:21] You: that right noctis
[2008/06/07 17:21] You: only if it is performed lol
[2008/06/07 17:21] Phorkyad Acropolis: oh back--was talking to my actor who crashed right before our performance
[2008/06/07 17:21] You: wb Phorkyad
[2008/06/07 17:21] Manx Wharton: specifically wrt the Bacchae, or more generally?
[2008/06/07 17:21] Linc Nefarious: crashed?
[2008/06/07 17:22] RITCHEY Jacobus: must be frustraiting
[2008/06/07 17:22] You: lots been doing that today
[2008/06/07 17:22] Phorkyad Acropolis: well not crash, internet meltdown more like
[2008/06/07 17:22] Alizarin Goldflake: ok may i have the definition of performing?
[2008/06/07 17:22] You: awww
[2008/06/07 17:22] You: anything where an actual AV has to be present for the work to happen
[2008/06/07 17:22] sandhya2 Patel is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:22] Meghamora Woodward: Yeah - fried cable modem. We were actually quite fortunate during the production as far as crashing actors... up until today!
[2008/06/07 17:22] You: so live DJs musicians actors
[2008/06/07 17:23] Alizarin Goldflake: ok got it
[2008/06/07 17:23] Alizarin Goldflake: you mean avs have to be moving?
[2008/06/07 17:23] You: couls even include living sculptures
[2008/06/07 17:23] Phorkyad Acropolis: and we dont have to talk abotu the Bacchae--general performance is more relevant to more of us I would say
[2008/06/07 17:23] Octaine Quinnell: Perhaps presenting too
[2008/06/07 17:23] You: but I've yet to meet a living sculpture busker in SL lol
[2008/06/07 17:23] Alizarin Goldflake: ugh - my chat is coming out backwards
[2008/06/07 17:23] Manx Wharton: what about art production performances
[2008/06/07 17:23] You: yes
[2008/06/07 17:23] Linc Nefarious: moving...in a poetry recital...its just speaking really
[2008/06/07 17:23] Manx Wharton: assembly processes etc
[2008/06/07 17:24] Octaine Quinnell: Yes - I was offered a roll in one. Have done several rolls in SL movies
[2008/06/07 17:24] You: I think one would have to oiinclude the fourth dimension to be a performance - ie time...
[2008/06/07 17:24] Manx Wharton: caffeine, brb
[2008/06/07 17:24] Beta Bates hides hir bread
[2008/06/07 17:24] Manx Wharton: /afk
[2008/06/07 17:25] Octaine Quinnell: Wheelerwood Movies. American Movie maker
[2008/06/07 17:25] You: sop phorkyad how do you put on a play in sl what does it entail?
[2008/06/07 17:25] Linc Nefarious: hi Oct
[2008/06/07 17:25] Phorkyad Acropolis: well, in many ways it is like RL theatre--scrit selection, auditions, rehearsals...staging, set and costume design
[2008/06/07 17:25] You: movies are a slightly different thing - the video is the finished product not the production process - though it is fun to take part in them
[2008/06/07 17:26] Phorkyad Acropolis: of course it comes out more like a puppet show coupled with radio drama...
[2008/06/07 17:26] Phorkyad Acropolis: so two things I am lookimg at are the technological limitations (and how to work with/around them)
[2008/06/07 17:26] Noctis Oh nods
[2008/06/07 17:27] Phorkyad Acropolis: and the idea of perceived presence--our audience knowing we are real, and responding to us
[2008/06/07 17:27] CodeBastard Redgrave is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:27] Phorkyad Acropolis: since lots of SL perfomance is one way--getting feedback i important
[2008/06/07 17:27] RITCHEY Jacobus: agreed
[2008/06/07 17:27] Phorkyad Acropolis: and if this is being blogged I should probably typebetter!
[2008/06/07 17:27] You: hehe
[2008/06/07 17:27] Jubilant Quackenbush: lol
[2008/06/07 17:27] You: np
[2008/06/07 17:27] Mar Dwi is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:28] Phorkyad Acropolis: what I also find is interesting is using SL conventions in a performance
[2008/06/07 17:28] Phorkyad Acropolis: so it eems"natural" given the environment
[2008/06/07 17:28] Noctis Oh: context is all :)
[2008/06/07 17:28] Linc Nefarious: what sort of conventions?
[2008/06/07 17:29] You: what do you mean by SL conventions Phorkyad?
[2008/06/07 17:29] Phorkyad Acropolis: well, avatars don;t always move in the direction you want them to--as I found out tonight while standing in for our missing performer
[2008/06/07 17:30] Alizarin Goldflake: sl was very bad today
[2008/06/07 17:30] Phorkyad Acropolis: so using pose balls to get an actor at a particular place; or watching the words /hug Cadmus appear during a show
[2008/06/07 17:30] Phorkyad Acropolis: these thingsare a part of everyay SL, so it seems natural to use them
[2008/06/07 17:30] You: welcome Wheelerwood
[2008/06/07 17:30] Wheelerwood Oppewall: ty
[2008/06/07 17:30] Falen Baar is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:30] Phorkyad Acropolis: I also had Dionysus, a god, teleport in and fly....because he CAN
[2008/06/07 17:31] You: hehe\
[2008/06/07 17:31] You: so in some ways SL is more fun to put on a production than in RL as you can do all the special effects in real time ;_)
[2008/06/07 17:31] Manx Wharton: it was a pretty hot andro dionysus btw. :D
[2008/06/07 17:32] Phorkyad Acropolis: well, theoretically, but they are certainly cheaper...when the house caught fire, the fire appeared on cue
[2008/06/07 17:32] Manx Wharton: esp with the bull head. :O
[2008/06/07 17:32] Noctis Oh grins
[2008/06/07 17:32] Wheelerwood Oppewall: :)
[2008/06/07 17:32] You: :-)
[2008/06/07 17:32] RITCHEY Jacobus: brb
[2008/06/07 17:33] Octaine Quinnell: How big can the audience get before lag effects the performance
[2008/06/07 17:33] Phorkyad Acropolis: eh, well...
[2008/06/07 17:33] Phorkyad Acropolis: we hd eight actors and two tech people...with an audience of 20 were mostly okay
[2008/06/07 17:33] Phorkyad Acropolis: Megh, would you agree?
[2008/06/07 17:34] Gumby Roffo is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:34] Meghamora Woodward: Yeah, I'd say so - it was kind of dependent on what else was going on.
[2008/06/07 17:34] Meghamora Woodward: I think we had a bigger audience on Wednesday, and lag wasn't affecting me at all... but that wasn't the case for a few of the actors.
[2008/06/07 17:34] Phorkyad Acropolis: yes, of course their own machines make a differences...
[2008/06/07 17:35] Meghamora Woodward: When there were 44 people on the sim, it was pretty laggy for everyone. But it did clear, eventually.
[2008/06/07 17:35] Phorkyad Acropolis: my alt attended tonight's performance so he could watch from the house for me
[2008/06/07 17:35] You: lag is usually more at the client end - and that is mostly caused by the AVs and all their attachments your client is trying to rez
[2008/06/07 17:35] Octaine Quinnell: Yes and that would make it difficult for timing
[2008/06/07 17:35] Phorkyad Acropolis: but the fire appeared grey for a Loooong time
[2008/06/07 17:36] Linc Nefarious: was there voice chat in this production?
[2008/06/07 17:36] Phorkyad Acropolis: we used voice chat for dialgoue, then Ihad music on the audio stream for music and sound effects
[2008/06/07 17:36] Noctis Oh: have you had difficulty with audience "participation"?
[2008/06/07 17:36] You: and was there text of the dialogue as well?
[2008/06/07 17:37] Phorkyad Acropolis: weran a ine reader, so anyone could read along
[2008/06/07 17:37] You: for those who cant do voice?
[2008/06/07 17:37] You: great
[2008/06/07 17:37] Manx Wharton: phork, I was wondering if you'd be able to discuss how you accounted for during-show crashes, when the VC kept rolling.
[2008/06/07 17:37] Phorkyad Acropolis: but so far I have resisted open mics for audience for immediate feedback
[2008/06/07 17:37] Phorkyad Acropolis: fortunately no one crashed DURING
[2008/06/07 17:37] Manx Wharton: I mean in the audience.
[2008/06/07 17:38] Manx Wharton: sorry! :D
[2008/06/07 17:38] Phorkyad Acropolis: we have had lien reader lag so it jumped lines, scenes reordered them
[2008/06/07 17:38] Phorkyad Acropolis: ah, I couldnt keep track of audience crashes!
[2008/06/07 17:38] You: ouch
[2008/06/07 17:38] Octaine Quinnell: brb
[2008/06/07 17:38] Manx Wharton: true, but with VC still live
[2008/06/07 17:38] Phorkyad Acropolis: though I did monitor audience size and it was fairly consistent
[2008/06/07 17:38] Manx Wharton: did you try to capitalize on the audio component more?
[2008/06/07 17:39] Manx Wharton: kind of like a radio show?
[2008/06/07 17:39] Phorkyad Acropolis: well voice chat is perfect for theatre presentation--but i had thi splan
[2008/06/07 17:39] Phorkyad Acropolis: to record the choral odes and mix them with the music to play on the audio stream
[2008/06/07 17:39] Phorkyad Acropolis: that way the chorus would not be localized but everywhere
[2008/06/07 17:40] Phorkyad Acropolis: unfortunately the recordings of each chorus member with different mics, etc made the levels too different for a consistent recording
[2008/06/07 17:40] Wheelerwood Oppewall: question
[2008/06/07 17:40] Wheelerwood Oppewall: are you doing the show live or recording and playing later
[2008/06/07 17:41] Phorkyad Acropolis: live
[2008/06/07 17:41] Pandaemon Bombast is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:41] Wheelerwood Oppewall: k
[2008/06/07 17:41] Phorkyad Acropolis: recorded music and sound effects
[2008/06/07 17:41] Linc Nefarious: is voice a requirement you think, will audiencesa accept a produciton with just text?
[2008/06/07 17:41] elros Tuominen is Offline
[2008/06/07 17:41] Phorkyad Acropolis: I think it depends on what it is...and what other elements are in place
[2008/06/07 17:41] Manx Wharton: the text tends to pile up I think.
[2008/06/07 17:42] You: is this the first production you have put on in SL?
[2008/06/07 17:42] Phorkyad Acropolis: I did a one act piece last summer called THE PERM--two actors
[2008/06/07 17:42] Noctis Oh: quite a difference
[2008/06/07 17:42] Phorkyad Acropolis: and have done some spoken word performances in between
[2008/06/07 17:43] Phorkyad Acropolis: Megh has also done some mixed reality performance
[2008/06/07 17:43] Meghamora Woodward: Yes - I've done RL performance that incorporates SL via video projector. Basically, I act in RL with me in SL as my costar.
[2008/06/07 17:44] Phorkyad Acropolis: I am hoping she will bring that to SL this summer
[2008/06/07 17:44] Meghamora Woodward: As soon as I figure out how to bring RL me into SL properly. ;)
[2008/06/07 17:44] You: hehe summer - it is winter where i am...
[2008/06/07 17:44] You: via video?
[2008/06/07 17:44] Phorkyad Acropolis: I am off from teaching for 3.5 months--glorious summer...
[2008/06/07 17:44] Octaine Quinnell: back sorry
[2008/06/07 17:44] Phorkyad Acropolis smiles
[2008/06/07 17:45] You: wb Oct
[2008/06/07 17:45] Meghamora Woodward: Video would be nice, but I'm not sure the streaming technology is up to the kind of timing I have in mind - back and forth dialogue.
[2008/06/07 17:45] You: ah i see
[2008/06/07 17:45] Noctis Oh: sounds a challenge
[2008/06/07 17:45] RITCHEY Jacobus: indeed
[2008/06/07 17:45] Wheelerwood Oppewall: and $$
[2008/06/07 17:45] Meghamora Woodward: I will probably end up using morphing avatars - one shape like the one you see now, another that's representative of my RL self - with symbolic things like pictures of my RL surroundings...
[2008/06/07 17:46] Phorkyad Acropolis: so again, we have to find creative ways to do things if the technology slows us down (even literally with lag!)
[2008/06/07 17:47] Wheelerwood Oppewall: Are your performances shot on the ground or in the sky
[2008/06/07 17:47] You: we all have to work within the limits of the technology we are using to mediate our art
[2008/06/07 17:47] You: have you had a live video made of any of the performances?
[2008/06/07 17:48] Manx Wharton: well, art is the process of creation, and craft is the deft production against constraints.
[2008/06/07 17:48] Noctis Oh: interesting definitions
[2008/06/07 17:48] You: nice definition manx
[2008/06/07 17:48] Manx Wharton: so SLers tend to get crafty.
[2008/06/07 17:48] Phorkyad Acropolis: not sure what you emean by shot in sky or gorund?
[2008/06/07 17:48] Octaine Quinnell: Yes
[2008/06/07 17:48] Wheelerwood Oppewall: I have found in my filming if I have my sets over 300 meters it reduces lag greatly
[2008/06/07 17:48] Octaine Quinnell: Had that debate the other night
[2008/06/07 17:48] Phorkyad Acropolis: we have done some video clips: http://musofyr.com/bacchae.html
[2008/06/07 17:49] You: :-) great!
[2008/06/07 17:49] RITCHEY Jacobus: sorry every one i have to go great to meet you all and thank u quad
[2008/06/07 17:49] Phorkyad Acropolis: bye Ritchey
[2008/06/07 17:49] Meghamora Woodward: My RL performance had the SL component in a skybox 750 meters in the sky... which actually disappointed some of my audience members; they didn't want to see just my avatar - they wanted to see more of the world surrounding her.
[2008/06/07 17:49] RITCHEY Jacobus: bye all
[2008/06/07 17:49] Jubilant Quackenbush: bye Ritchey
[2008/06/07 17:49] Meghamora Woodward: Bye, Ritchey!
[2008/06/07 17:49] Wheelerwood Oppewall: bye
[2008/06/07 17:49] Noctis Oh: bbye
[2008/06/07 17:49] Manx Wharton: cya richey
[2008/06/07 17:49] You: bye Ritchey
[2008/06/07 17:50] You shout: welcome Willow!
[2008/06/07 17:50] Wheelerwood Oppewall: then use a holodeck soundstage
[2008/06/07 17:50] Phorkyad Acropolis: I had bulders create the Greek Theater as an educational location, btu also for performance
[2008/06/07 17:51] Phorkyad Acropolis: it sits at the edge of the ocean, and so the seaward vista has less lag
[2008/06/07 17:51] You: or get a builder to build you an environment
[2008/06/07 17:51] Phorkyad Acropolis: or so I have been told!
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[2008/06/07 17:51] Manx Wharton: you know, with the graphic lag issues, why do they bother constraining our group titles to some stunted length. Those LLers. :|
[2008/06/07 17:52] You: it depends how big a draw distance your audience member has - if they have their draw distance at 500m then they will lag - unless they are on a big kick ass machine
[2008/06/07 17:52] Will0w Anatra: Hello.
[2008/06/07 17:52] Manx Wharton: hi willow
[2008/06/07 17:52] You: hi willow
[2008/06/07 17:52] You: welcoem to the quadrapop tree
[2008/06/07 17:52] Will0w Anatra: Thanks.
[2008/06/07 17:52] Wheelerwood Oppewall: Hello
[2008/06/07 17:52] Will0w Anatra: It's my first time here.
[2008/06/07 17:52] Noctis Oh: welcome, mine as well :)
[2008/06/07 17:53] Beta Bates: Mine too
[2008/06/07 17:53] Manx Wharton: well, first timers are required to recite longfellow nude. come on, hop to it
[2008/06/07 17:53] You: you are invisible to me Willow ;-)
[2008/06/07 17:53] Jubilant Quackenbush: mine three
[2008/06/07 17:53] You: Manx! lol
[2008/06/07 17:53] Will0w Anatra: Um. Okay. Hold on.
[2008/06/07 17:53] Noctis Oh: I'll do it
[2008/06/07 17:53] Noctis Oh grins
[2008/06/07 17:53] Will0w Anatra: Better? I'm in the teal chair behind you.
[2008/06/07 17:53] Phorkyad Acropolis: Longfellow Nude? I am unfamiliar with him and his poems...
[2008/06/07 17:54] Manx Wharton: that's the spirit noctis! :D
[2008/06/07 17:54] Noctis Oh snorts
[2008/06/07 17:54] You: ah now you rez ;-)
[2008/06/07 17:54] Will0w Anatra: :) Yay rebake.
[2008/06/07 17:54] Will0w Anatra: Are most people here actively doing and showing art in SL?
[2008/06/07 17:54] Manx Wharton: oh, right--I was talking about the, uhm, poet
[2008/06/07 17:54] Octaine Quinnell: Yes
[2008/06/07 17:55] Noctis Oh: the um poet is right
[2008/06/07 17:55] You: yes we are Willow - some are visual others music and others theatre
[2008/06/07 17:55] You: oh and movies;-)
[2008/06/07 17:55] Manx Wharton: and poets
[2008/06/07 17:55] Noctis Oh: and some of us perform in other ways :)
[2008/06/07 17:55] Manx Wharton: and chefs
[2008/06/07 17:55] You: and poets - that right
[2008/06/07 17:55] Manx Wharton: and con artists.
[2008/06/07 17:55] Wheelerwood Oppewall: lag is our muse
[2008/06/07 17:56] Will0w Anatra nods. I'm a performer with a dance and performance art background in rl, but haven't done much here.
[2008/06/07 17:56] Jubilant Quackenbush: I was part of a performance piece involving giving birth in SL after a 9 week pregnancy
[2008/06/07 17:56] Octaine Quinnell: hehe
[2008/06/07 17:56] Will0w Anatra: Really?
[2008/06/07 17:56] Octaine Quinnell: Yuk
[2008/06/07 17:56] Will0w Anatra: Cool.
[2008/06/07 17:56] Will0w Anatra: (I did one during my actual 8th month of pregnancy...)
[2008/06/07 17:56] Linc Nefarious: dance would be a hard thing to do in SL.
[2008/06/07 17:56] Octaine Quinnell: I get to see the RL thing in a few months
[2008/06/07 17:56] Noctis Oh: it was a lovely performance
[2008/06/07 17:56] You: wow is that what it was all about!
[2008/06/07 17:56] Will0w Anatra: Cool.
[2008/06/07 17:57] Manx Wharton: I suppose you didn't go C. :D
[2008/06/07 17:57] Jubilant Quackenbush: Wel, I am not able to get pregnant in RL
[2008/06/07 17:57] Will0w Anatra: What kind of performance? Physical? Dance? Words? Mix?
[2008/06/07 17:57] quadrapop Lane has done the RL thing 3 times - that was enough...
[2008/06/07 17:57] Will0w Anatra grins.
[2008/06/07 17:57] Phorkyad Acropolis: WillOw you may want to findd Kim Pasternak in SL who is doing dance project...
[2008/06/07 17:57] Jubilant Quackenbush: and so I did it in SL
[2008/06/07 17:57] Will0w Anatra nods.
[2008/06/07 17:57] You: that is what SL is for - doing what we cant in RL
[2008/06/07 17:57] You: well one of the things anyway
[2008/06/07 17:58] Will0w Anatra: It's interesting to see so many parents out here...I know that this is my night out that I don't get other wise now that our daughter is here.
[2008/06/07 17:58] Octaine Quinnell: True
[2008/06/07 17:58] Manx Wharton: yes, like violating mountain goats.
[2008/06/07 17:58] Manx Wharton pulls himself together
[2008/06/07 17:58] Jubilant Quackenbush: and for the actual birth, my friend whi got pregnant in SL with me and I gave birth to an audience
[2008/06/07 17:58] Will0w Anatra: Nice, paintings, btw, Manx.
[2008/06/07 17:58] Manx Wharton: wtyvm
[2008/06/07 17:58] Will0w Anatra: For real?
[2008/06/07 17:58] You: how did that go Jubi?
[2008/06/07 17:58] Jubilant Quackenbush: we had an artist build a auditorium filled with water
[2008/06/07 17:58] Jubilant Quackenbush: for water birth
[2008/06/07 17:58] Manx Wharton: ms willow
[2008/06/07 17:58] Octaine Quinnell: Cool
[2008/06/07 17:59] Jubilant Quackenbush: we found labor pain animations
[2008/06/07 17:59] You: done that 3 times only way to go in rl
[2008/06/07 17:59] Jubilant Quackenbush: and built prim infaants
[2008/06/07 17:59] Jubilant Quackenbush: there was another level to it
[2008/06/07 18:00] Jubilant Quackenbush: becuse we were both giving birth to unused furry herm alts...
[2008/06/07 18:00] You: hehe
[2008/06/07 18:00] Jubilant Quackenbush: turned the pregnancy into a way of bringin them to life
[2008/06/07 18:00] Manx Wharton: yaaahhh.
[2008/06/07 18:00] Manx Wharton: :O
[2008/06/07 18:01] Noctis Oh grins
[2008/06/07 18:01] Noctis Oh: selfproducing selfhood
[2008/06/07 18:01] Octaine Quinnell: Sorry all I have to leave - RL calls. Or naggs. :)
[2008/06/07 18:01] You: mmm coffee... sorry folks but I will have to leavein a few minutes - please feel free to continue your discussion
[2008/06/07 18:01] Noctis Oh: :P
[2008/06/07 18:01] Iohannes Crispien is Offline
[2008/06/07 18:01] Jubilant Quackenbush: bye Oct
[2008/06/07 18:01] You: poor Oct - it will only get worse ty for coming
[2008/06/07 18:02] You: so are you now using the alts you "birthed"
[2008/06/07 18:02] Jubilant Quackenbush: yes we are
[2008/06/07 18:02] Will0w Anatra waves. Nice to meet you.
[2008/06/07 18:02] You: wb beta
[2008/06/07 18:02] Will0w Anatra: That is completely interesting.
[2008/06/07 18:02] Octaine Quinnell is Offline
[2008/06/07 18:02] Beta Bates: Thanks.
[2008/06/07 18:02] Jhoolya Eilde is Offline
[2008/06/07 18:02] Manx Wharton: great seeing you willow
[2008/06/07 18:02] Beta Bates: Crashycrashiness.
[2008/06/07 18:02] Noctis Oh: wb
[2008/06/07 18:02] Jubilant Quackenbush: weebee Betaluv
[2008/06/07 18:02] Beta Bates: Thanks, Jubidear.
[2008/06/07 18:03] Will0w Anatra: Oh...not leaving. Saying bye to Octaine.
[2008/06/07 18:03] Noctis Oh: so jubi, what was it like for you to perform the actual labor in front of an audience?
[2008/06/07 18:03] Jubilant Quackenbush: the public nature of the birth also helped the pregnancy itself not be... anticlimactic
[2008/06/07 18:04] Jubilant Quackenbush: it was quite movning actually
[2008/06/07 18:04] You: how many in the audience?
[2008/06/07 18:04] Will0w Anatra: Perhaps I'm missing something...was the actual labor broadcast into sl as well?
[2008/06/07 18:04] Beta Bates: 30+, I think?
[2008/06/07 18:04] Beta Bates: It was a solely SL pregancy, Will0w
[2008/06/07 18:04] Jubilant Quackenbush: the labor was in SL Willow
[2008/06/07 18:04] Will0w Anatra: Ah.
[2008/06/07 18:04] Will0w Anatra: Okay.
[2008/06/07 18:05] Jubilant Quackenbush: I can't get pregnant in RL
[2008/06/07 18:05] Will0w Anatra nods.
[2008/06/07 18:05] Will0w Anatra: Okay, missed that. Apologies.
[2008/06/07 18:05] Noctis Oh smiles
[2008/06/07 18:05] Jubilant Quackenbush: it was not simply role-playing for me
[2008/06/07 18:06] You decline alt7 - Alternative Music / Indie, Pomponio (32, 89, 71) from A group member named Therese Slade.
[2008/06/07 18:06] Will0w Anatra nods, agreeing completely.
[2008/06/07 18:06] Jubilant Quackenbush: it was a way to express and virtually embody a deep desire
[2008/06/07 18:06] Manx Wharton: right. part of the performance art immersion is an exploration beyond role itself.
[2008/06/07 18:06] Will0w Anatra: It sounds absolutely gorgeous.
[2008/06/07 18:07] Jubilant Quackenbush: the audience was moved too
[2008/06/07 18:07] Manx Wharton: I'm sorry I missed this
[2008/06/07 18:07] Jubilant Quackenbush: and many came to an after party where they were able to rock the babies in thier arms....
[2008/06/07 18:07] Manx Wharton: academically and artistically and Slistically interesting in several respects.
[2008/06/07 18:07] Beta Bates: Awwww, indeed.
[2008/06/07 18:07] Noctis Oh: I have the info card if anyone wants it
[2008/06/07 18:07] You: me too - I saw you growing at fracture but did not realise it was part of an ongoing artwork
[2008/06/07 18:07] Jubilant Quackenbush: most had emotional reactions to that as well
[2008/06/07 18:07] Beta Bates: I'm scanning my drive for the pics I know I took of it.
[2008/06/07 18:08] You: please Noctis
[2008/06/07 18:08] Manx Wharton: man, I need to hit fracture more.
[2008/06/07 18:08] Noctis Oh gave you The Labor Project--Information.
[2008/06/07 18:08] Beta Bates giggles
[2008/06/07 18:08] Noctis Oh nods seriously
[2008/06/07 18:08] You: ty Noctis
[2008/06/07 18:08] Manx Wharton: :D
[2008/06/07 18:09] Manx Wharton: tx noctis
[2008/06/07 18:09] Noctis Oh nods
[2008/06/07 18:09] You: Sorry folks I have to leave... rl meeting to attend... the next Salon will be on July 6th
[2008/06/07 18:09] You: I'm away fromt he net in a fortnight ;-)
[2008/06/07 18:09] Beta Bates: Awww, Quad
[2008/06/07 18:09] Manx Wharton: looking fwd to it
[2008/06/07 18:09] Jubilant Quackenbush: thank you quadropop
[2008/06/07 18:09] Noctis Oh: rl holiday>?
[2008/06/07 18:09] Meghamora Woodward: Thank you for having us, Quadrapop! :)
[2008/06/07 18:09] Manx Wharton: have a good one quad
[2008/06/07 18:09] You: yes:-))
[2008/06/07 18:09] Beta Bates: Hope it's for a good cause.
[2008/06/07 18:10] You: yw anytime all of you
[2008/06/07 18:10] Will0w Anatra: Lovely to meet you, Quadrapop.
[2008/06/07 18:11] You: TY Phorkyad, Megh and Jubi for sharing your experiences in SL - please continue the discussion if you wish... I will leave myav here to catch any further text
[2008/06/07 18:11] You: you too willow
[2008/06/07 18:11] Linc Nefarious: thanks quad
[2008/06/07 18:11] You: afk
[2008/06/07 18:11] Phorkyad Acropolis: sure you ar ewelcome
[2008/06/07 18:11] Noctis Oh waves
[2008/06/07 18:11] Will0w Anatra: I should go, as well. Thanks so much for the notecard, Noctis.
[2008/06/07 18:11] Noctis Oh: surely
[2008/06/07 18:11] Manx Wharton: great talk gang. this one of those practical creative-work discussions that we could do more with ISL
[2008/06/07 18:11] Will0w Anatra: This is incredibly interesting...I"ve been searching around for good art and performance for a while now.
[2008/06/07 18:12] Will0w Anatra: Please keep in touch.
[2008/06/07 18:12] Kilara Balnarring is Offline
[2008/06/07 18:12] You: afk
[2008/06/07 18:12] Manx Wharton: shall indeed willow
[2008/06/07 18:12] Jubilant Quackenbush: Phorkyad and Meghamora... how can I be notified of your next performances
[2008/06/07 18:13] Linc Nefarious: the Australian Film Television and Radio School has a presence in SL. they would be doing some pretty interesting work I imagine
[2008/06/07 18:13] Phorkyad Acropolis: I have a group if you would like to join
[2008/06/07 18:13] Noctis Oh bows to willow
[2008/06/07 18:14] Manx Wharton: oh I have a group too! notices about really messed-up things going on and general misbehavior.
[2008/06/07 18:14] Beta Bates: Such as.....?
[2008/06/07 18:14] Beta Bates: I saw that in your profile and was wondering, Manx.
[2008/06/07 18:14] Manx Wharton: for example: tonight is a 'beta ride' in that dirigible overhead.
[2008/06/07 18:14] Beta Bates: Um?
[2008/06/07 18:14] Noctis Oh mews
[2008/06/07 18:15] Manx Wharton: It's the FREAKOUT, BETA! :D
[2008/06/07 18:15] Beta Bates crosses hir legs
[2008/06/07 18:15] Noctis Oh: eep
[2008/06/07 18:15] Beta Bates: Yah.
[2008/06/07 18:17] Jubilant Quackenbush: sorry, looking for another group to drop so I can join Meghamora's
[2008/06/07 18:17] Noctis Oh: so, thanks all. . .
[2008/06/07 18:17] Manx Wharton: hang on.
[2008/06/07 18:17] Meghamora Woodward: I keep running into that problem, too. *sighs*
[2008/06/07 18:18] Manx Wharton: art events, bizarre music things, NPIRL stuff, weird infrastructure here ISL---kind of out there but straight but
[2008/06/07 18:18] Manx Wharton: surreal without realizing it.
[2008/06/07 18:19] Manx Wharton: that and comrades in art post things they have going.
[2008/06/07 18:19] Jubilant Quackenbush: ok Megh, good to go
[2008/06/07 18:19] Jubilant Quackenbush: invite me to your group?
[2008/06/07 18:19] Manx Wharton: just a big clearinghouse of the distinctive.
[2008/06/07 18:20] Jubilant Quackenbush: Thanks hun
[2008/06/07 18:20] Jubilant Quackenbush: thanx Manx
[2008/06/07 18:20] Noctis Oh: very well, all, my thanks for the meeting
[2008/06/07 18:20] Manx Wharton: def you bet!
[2008/06/07 18:20] Noctis Oh: lovley evening to all
[2008/06/07 18:20] Manx Wharton: great visit noctis. ;)
[2008/06/07 18:21] Meghamora Woodward: You're welcome - thank you for joining! :)
[2008/06/07 18:21] Jubilant Quackenbush: time for me to go too
[2008/06/07 18:21] Jubilant Quackenbush: thanks everyone
[2008/06/07 18:21] Noctis Oh bows to manx
[2008/06/07 18:21] Linc Nefarious: im going to head off also. thanks for the discussion everyone. some really interesting issues were discussed.
[2008/06/07 18:21] Manx Wharton: great seeing you linc.
[2008/06/07 18:21] Noctis Oh: must jet, my thanks to all
[2008/06/07 18:21] Manx Wharton: cheers
[2008/06/07 18:22] Linc Nefarious: nice to see you Manx. take care
[2008/06/07 18:22] Manx Wharton: EVERYBODY TYPE ON PHORK!
[2008/06/07 18:22] Manx Wharton: hehe
[2008/06/07 18:22] Phorkyad Acropolis: hey~
[2008/06/07 18:22] Phorkyad Acropolis: on phone again
[2008/06/07 18:22] Meghamora Woodward thinks we should be allowed to sit on afk avatars.
[2008/06/07 18:22] Manx Wharton: you around later quad? want to take a ride on The Magus?
[2008/06/07 18:22] Linc Nefarious is Offline
[2008/06/07 18:23] You: CC here - Quad is gone - will be gone for 7+ hours. (she has a Certification Course today)
[2008/06/07 18:24] Manx Wharton: oh sorry! haha
[2008/06/07 18:24] You: np.
[2008/06/07 18:24] Manx Wharton: best of luck to her then
[2008/06/07 18:24] Manx Wharton: AND GET OUT OF QUAD'S BODY YOU FREAK! haha
[2008/06/07 18:24] Phorkyad Acropolis: well, see you all
[2008/06/07 18:24] Manx Wharton: cyall phork
[2008/06/07 18:25] Meghamora Woodward: Goodnight! :)
[2008/06/07 18:25] Manx Wharton: hey btw I'm a friend of Perse.
[2008/06/07 18:25] Manx Wharton: Persephone Phoenix
[2008/06/07 18:25] You: LoL. Thanks Manx - I can see why she likes you ...
[2008/06/07 18:25] Meghamora Woodward: Oh, cool! I remembered her saying hello to you when you came to see us. :)
[2008/06/07 18:25] Manx Wharton: haha oh GAWD
[2008/06/07 18:26] Meghamora Woodward: Have a good evening!
[2008/06/07 18:26] Manx Wharton: u2
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